{"id":5235,"date":"2022-05-09T14:49:50","date_gmt":"2022-05-09T12:49:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/gesprache-uber-leonore-mau\/"},"modified":"2023-06-19T11:21:01","modified_gmt":"2023-06-19T09:21:01","slug":"gesprache-uber-leonore-mau","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/en\/zur-person\/gesprache-uber-leonore-mau\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversations about Leonore Mau"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l6ksy670-01e1c75cf3436edb4959a3bd0bb728ff\">\n#top .av-special-heading.av-l6ksy670-01e1c75cf3436edb4959a3bd0bb728ff{\npadding-bottom:10px;\n}\nbody .av-special-heading.av-l6ksy670-01e1c75cf3436edb4959a3bd0bb728ff .av-special-heading-tag .heading-char{\nfont-size:25px;\n}\n.av-special-heading.av-l6ksy670-01e1c75cf3436edb4959a3bd0bb728ff .av-subheading{\nfont-size:15px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='av-special-heading av-l6ksy670-01e1c75cf3436edb4959a3bd0bb728ff av-special-heading-h3  avia-builder-el-0  el_before_av_hr  avia-builder-el-first '><h3 class='av-special-heading-tag '  itemprop=\"headline\"  >Portrayed and companions remember Leonore Mau<\/h3><div class=\"special-heading-border\"><div class=\"special-heading-inner-border\"><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-6ficv-2e205cb34c2a71a7c89ffe26a47996da\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-6ficv-2e205cb34c2a71a7c89ffe26a47996da{\nheight:50px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-6ficv-2e205cb34c2a71a7c89ffe26a47996da hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-1  el_after_av_heading  el_before_av_one_full '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-cir-90affb61c9ab2375268c4c359b5db161 av_one_full  avia-builder-el-2  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_hr  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-l77cb6rl-2ab9e83a784f385fcbf8a7ab9face3d4 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p class=\"x_MsoNormal\">Nathalie David a filmmaker and artist, was Leonore Mau&#8217;s long term personal assistant.<br \/>\nIn 2016 after finishing her film <em>Diese Photographin hei\u00dft Leonore Mau<\/em>, (52 min, DE 2005 &#8211; 2016 <a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/223781321\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-auth=\"NotApplicable\" data-safelink=\"true\" data-linkindex=\"0\">https:\/\/vimeo.com\/223781321<\/a>), she began to record a series of conversations with people from Leonore Mau&#8217;s environment and those who were photographed by her.<\/p>\n<p class=\"x_MsoNormal\">You can read five excerpts from these conversations, as well as an excerpt from Leonore Maus&#8217; last interview (2006) below:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/en\/interviews\/\">To the interview with Ingo Niemann<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n\n<style 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C. Gundlach\"><span class='avia_iconbox_title' >F. C. Gundlach<\/span><span class='avia_button_background avia-button avia-color-theme-color-highlight' ><\/span><\/a><\/div><\/p><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-1xz5n-bb0bc7d4d0db5f95abee81debf51f51f av_one_fifth  avia-builder-el-11  el_after_av_one_fifth  el_before_av_one_fifth  flex_column_div  '     ><p>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l78qjapi-4cef07ba25cd3d36d166863e8d33b25c\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l78qjapi-4cef07ba25cd3d36d166863e8d33b25c img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l78qjapi-4cef07ba25cd3d36d166863e8d33b25c .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l78qjapi-4cef07ba25cd3d36d166863e8d33b25c av-styling- avia-align-center  avia-builder-el-12  el_before_av_button  avia-builder-el-first '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2484 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2484 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-180x180.jpg\" alt='' title='Ohne Titel (Hubert Fichte mit Gelede-Bauchmaske und Tonkopf-Maske)'  height=\"180\" width=\"180\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-180x180.jpg 180w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-80x80.jpg 80w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-36x36.jpg 36w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 180px) 100vw, 180px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<div  class='avia-button-wrap av-l78qisej-bd29b8042fa456ff84e0b71f00a2130a-wrap avia-button-center  avia-builder-el-13  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fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2509 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2509 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-180x180.jpg\" alt='' title='Ohne Titel (Y?ko Tawada)'  height=\"180\" width=\"180\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-180x180.jpg 180w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-80x80.jpg 80w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-36x36.jpg 36w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 180px) 100vw, 180px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<div  class='avia-button-wrap av-lfjjn5ub-85df4fee0aee046d96e1e6c6dc9174a4-wrap avia-button-center  avia-builder-el-16  el_after_av_image  avia-builder-el-last  button-indi'>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" 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src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-180x180.jpg\" alt='' title='Leonore Mau im psychiatrischen Dorf &quot;Kenia&quot;'  height=\"180\" width=\"180\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-180x180.jpg 180w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-80x80.jpg 80w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-36x36.jpg 36w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 180px) 100vw, 180px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<div  class='avia-button-wrap av-l78qn7lx-60cb5a33c486f5b822cbef07075e2a33-wrap avia-button-center  avia-builder-el-19  el_after_av_image  avia-builder-el-last  button-indi'>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l78qn7lx-60cb5a33c486f5b822cbef07075e2a33\">\n#top #wrap_all .avia-button.av-l78qn7lx-60cb5a33c486f5b822cbef07075e2a33{\nborder-style:solid;\nborder-width:2px 2px 2px 2px;\nborder-color:#595959;\ntransition:all 0.4s ease-in-out;\n}\n#top #wrap_all .avia-button.av-l78qn7lx-60cb5a33c486f5b822cbef07075e2a33:hover{\ncolor:white;\ntransition:all 0.4s ease-in-out;\n}\n#top #wrap_all .avia-button.av-l78qn7lx-60cb5a33c486f5b822cbef07075e2a33:hover .avia-svg-icon svg:first-child{\nfill:white;\nstroke:white;\n}\n<\/style>\n<a href='#wolfgang-von-wangenheim'  class='avia-button av-l78qn7lx-60cb5a33c486f5b822cbef07075e2a33 av-link-btn avia-icon_select-no avia-size-large avia-position-center avia-color-white avia-font-color-black'   aria-label=\" Wolfgang von Wangenheim\"><span class='avia_iconbox_title' > Wolfgang von Wangenheim<\/span><span class='avia_button_background avia-button avia-color-theme-color-highlight' ><\/span><\/a><\/div><\/p><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l6ksyfdw-eb72620241cfc160f1010dd1b1365001\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-l6ksyfdw-eb72620241cfc160f1010dd1b1365001{\nheight:120px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-l6ksyfdw-eb72620241cfc160f1010dd1b1365001 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-20  el_after_av_one_fifth  el_before_av_one_full '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-36dm3-eab0aedfb842f896c01a72ee65f0ad5b av_one_full  avia-builder-el-21  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_hr  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-l7etvaad-657224e97a1997eaf862d9706caff6d2 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><h4>Susanne Amatosero at home on Hamburg<strong> (6 January 2016) <\/strong><\/h4>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l7etumsy-9f91d58d5eaf0eab2621d31664a74959\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-l7etumsy-9f91d58d5eaf0eab2621d31664a74959{\nheight:25px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-l7etumsy-9f91d58d5eaf0eab2621d31664a74959 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-23  el_after_av_one_full  el_before_av_one_half '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-hnqwj-bfb594177cb217d154f6d1632f1dffdb av_one_half  avia-builder-el-24  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_one_half  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  id=\"susanne-amatosero\"  class='av_textblock_section av-l5rzt5h7-c5f40ff4e7820c6c1b3b9ab8b34e97c1 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>How I first got to know Leonore Mau? I was in the Caribbean at the time and got to know this priestess from the Spiritual Baptist Church. She then invited me to the church. The priest had been preaching to the congregation and then added, \u201cAs everyone knows, we once had guests here from Germany before, Hubert Fichte and Leonore Mau.\u201d He took the two books <a href=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/en\/zum-werk\/fotobaende\/xango\/\"><em>Xango<\/em><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/en\/zum-werk\/fotobaende\/petersilie\/\"><em>Petersilie<\/em><\/a> out from below the altar and we all perused them together. He then gave me presents to pass on to Hubert Fichte. Two years later we returned with the presents for Hubert Fichte. I called Leonore Mau, but she fobbed us off. That was precisely the time when Hubert Fichte was dying.<\/p>\n<p>I wouldn\u2019t have pursued this any further, but our sound technician insisted. At some point, the two of us were invited to dinner at Leonore\u2019s. At that time, Leonore was already over sixty, yet she had stayed very young. She was very elegant and mindful of social graces, but she wasn\u2019t haughty. I found talking to her extremely engaging. She was a generous woman. Her generosity also had something to do with education. In the sense of the word \u201cpolyglot\u201d, that you are connected with the entire world through your education, your background and your self-awareness, and for this reason you have no need to be petty.<\/p>\n<p>We didn\u2019t talk much about theory. Instead, Leonore Mau told more graphic accounts about how one or another photo came about, about how she came to participate in a certain ceremony and how poor the light was there, or how someone had stolen her camera.<\/p>\n<p>Her stories were about Hubert Fichte, about the people there and about their amazing experiences. Basically, about the poetic nature of this otherness, this unexpectedness and also about the beauty of the people there.<\/p>\n<p>Leonore\u2019s photos are colourful. Yes, she shot in black and white, yet I believe colour actually played an important role for her, the warm colours she always worked with. In fact, her pictures have something epic about them. Effectively, they are not snapshots. They don\u2019t just say something about a single moment but also about something that recurs. If an <a href=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/en\/produkt\/ohne-titel-das-blutbad\/\">animal is sacrificed<\/a> in a ceremony and you see the blood seeping from it, you don\u2019t think, \u201cThere\u2019s an animal being slaughtered\u201d. Instead, you know you are looking at an image of an event that is ritually staged over and over again. Something epic, or even classical. She and Hubert Fichte researched these ceremonies: they\u2019re weren\u2019t just there for an evening but went back repeatedly. Also, the people play less of a role as individuals than as protagonists of their professions or their history. When I say, for instance, that these old ladies from the Casa das Minas are \u201cprotagonists of their history\u201d I mean that there is also a resonance of the fact that their ancestors arrived there as slaves. All this history spawns the epic dimension of these images.<\/p>\n<p>Leonore Mau did not stage her photographs. She knew exactly what mattered in these ceremonies. She waited as long as it took until whatever it was that she wanted to see took place.<\/p>\n<p>Leonore Mau never took sensationalist shots. And she didn\u2019t ever photograph someone such that you get the feeling that in that moment the person was reluctant to be photographed. When you look at her portraits she took of people it is instantly clear that she did so with their consent.<\/p>\n<p>As a medium, photography is very close to theft, but she never stole her pictures. She was also someone who people put trust in more than not. She never looked down on anyone. Rather, she would have looked for some hidden meaning that maybe she couldn\u2019t grasp at first. She treated the people she met very attentively. She placed great value on understanding other languages. She and Hubert Fichte learned ancient Greek together in order to read in the original. Portuguese of course, English, French and Creole as well.<\/p>\n<p>To put it poetically, she was simply also a world citizen. Her flat was wonderful too. What I loved most were all the delightful things she had brought back from her travels. Of course, the flat was enormous, with a fantastic layout, very stylishly furnished, yet with a great simplicity, not crammed full of stuff. Everything that had been Hubert Fichte\u2019s she treated with very high regard. Like everything that Hubert Fichte had done was wonderful. She enthused about him to me. In this respect then she was also the classical \u201cwoman at his side\u201d. Regardless: theirs was an amazing, extraordinary encounter. Given her whole story, she struck me as a very special woman. The decisions she made were not in any manner typical for her generation.<\/p>\n<p>She had in fact studied set design and had intended to work as a stage designer, but then she became pregnant from this man who was twenty years her senior. You could say that because she was suddenly a married woman and mother she had actually lost part of her youth. But in the late sixties she managed to reclaim this for herself. And Hubert Fichte was <em>per se<\/em> someone who would venture into any milieus or parallel worlds for the purposes of research and opening them up or reporting on them. No matter whether it was the \u201cPalette\u201d or a <a href=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/en\/zum-werk\/projekte-und-themen\/psychiatrische-doerfer\/\">psychiatric hospital<\/a> in Benin.<\/p>\n<p>One got the feeling that she had a very fulfilled life. She never ever complained, not even about her ailments or frailties as an old lady.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-h3nzj-a8ae60b833d447deb076fa9eeb45c180 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-26  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_hr  flex_column_div  '     ><p>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l7kelz8u-51b665053165e2c3cc4271bfaaaa5ddc\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-l7kelz8u-51b665053165e2c3cc4271bfaaaa5ddc{\nheight:15px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-l7kelz8u-51b665053165e2c3cc4271bfaaaa5ddc hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-27  el_before_av_image  avia-builder-el-first '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s054op-65d7796de6bb3ea6519766082efde49f\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s054op-65d7796de6bb3ea6519766082efde49f img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s054op-65d7796de6bb3ea6519766082efde49f .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s054op-65d7796de6bb3ea6519766082efde49f av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-28  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-3152 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-3152 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-500790_susanne_Amatosero-236x300.jpg\" alt='' title='LM-500790_susanne_Amatosero'  height=\"300\" width=\"236\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-500790_susanne_Amatosero-236x300.jpg 236w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-500790_susanne_Amatosero-300x381.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-500790_susanne_Amatosero-600x762.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-500790_susanne_Amatosero-555x705.jpg 555w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-500790_susanne_Amatosero.jpg 698w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 236px) 100vw, 236px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-g580n-052b4e39efc728e511868d0b39fae877 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Susanne Amatosero), 2000<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s015ey-51cfd964d998158b35e03ebd87c52417\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s015ey-51cfd964d998158b35e03ebd87c52417 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s015ey-51cfd964d998158b35e03ebd87c52417 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s015ey-51cfd964d998158b35e03ebd87c52417 av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-30  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-3135 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-3135 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70632849-205x300.jpg\" alt='' title='Ohne Titel (Hubert Fichte beim 106-j\u00e4hrigen K\u00f6nig von Abomey)'  height=\"300\" width=\"205\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70632849-205x300.jpg 205w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70632849-300x440.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70632849-600x880.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70632849-702x1030.jpg 702w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70632849-768x1127.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70632849-481x705.jpg 481w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70632849.jpg 818w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 205px) 100vw, 205px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-l5s01n3b-fee8275d3da338c1ce93b980bdc950e7 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Hubert Fichte at the 106-year-old<br \/>\nKing of Abomey), 1975<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s061bv-6f52bd5e57c9d0931355e88e19b8fe1c\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s061bv-6f52bd5e57c9d0931355e88e19b8fe1c img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s061bv-6f52bd5e57c9d0931355e88e19b8fe1c .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s061bv-6f52bd5e57c9d0931355e88e19b8fe1c av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-32  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2533 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2533 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70364404-300x221.jpg\" alt='' title='Ohne Titel (Priesterinnen des Tempels &quot;Casa das Minas&quot;)'  height=\"221\" width=\"300\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70364404-300x221.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70364404-600x441.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70364404-1030x757.jpg 1030w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70364404-768x564.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70364404-705x518.jpg 705w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70364404.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-fo2t7-554ad38a4a7813402dc8c89c8ad1cebd '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Priestesses of the temple <em>Casa das Minas<\/em>), 1981\/82<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s0cszs-c496d65cd57d0f8248dee8f6d122c742\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s0cszs-c496d65cd57d0f8248dee8f6d122c742 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s0cszs-c496d65cd57d0f8248dee8f6d122c742 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s0cszs-c496d65cd57d0f8248dee8f6d122c742 av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-34  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-3153 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-3153 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse2-300x200.jpg\" alt='' title='\u00a9N_DAVID_D\u00fcrerstrasse2'  height=\"200\" width=\"300\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse2-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse2-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse2-1030x687.jpg 1030w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse2-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse2-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse2-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse2-1500x1000.jpg 1500w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse2-705x470.jpg 705w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-d9613-017538d403ce0d6a5c5fcbd5f02adb4f '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Figures in the shared flat of Leonore Mau<br \/>\nand Hubert Fichte in D\u00fcrerstra\u00dfe in Hamburg-Othmarschen<br \/>\n\u00a9 Nathalie David<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l81kknnf-afb3151d443fbdf3199fdbf6029dd346\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l81kknnf-afb3151d443fbdf3199fdbf6029dd346 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l81kknnf-afb3151d443fbdf3199fdbf6029dd346 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l81kknnf-afb3151d443fbdf3199fdbf6029dd346 av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-36  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-3154 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-3154 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse3-300x200.jpg\" alt='' title='\u00a9N_DAVID_D\u00fcrerstrasse3'  height=\"200\" width=\"300\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse3-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse3-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse3-1030x687.jpg 1030w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse3-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse3-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse3-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse3-1500x1000.jpg 1500w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/\u00a9N_DAVID_Duererstrasse3-705x470.jpg 705w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-l81klbgd-d4ba50e402b2a1bb74620c862933b8cc '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Bookshelf in the shared flat of Leonore Mau<br \/>\nand Hubert Fichte in D\u00fcrerstra\u00dfe in Hamburg-Othmarschen<br \/>\n\u00a9 Nathalie David<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s0epny-df95f28083070f0c16b03a406ad57592\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s0epny-df95f28083070f0c16b03a406ad57592 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s0epny-df95f28083070f0c16b03a406ad57592 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s0epny-df95f28083070f0c16b03a406ad57592 av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-38  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2303 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2303 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70243639-300x196.jpg\" alt='' title='Ohne Titel (Leonore Mau mit Mann und Sohn)'  height=\"196\" width=\"300\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70243639-300x196.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70243639-600x391.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70243639-1030x671.jpg 1030w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70243639-768x500.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70243639-705x459.jpg 705w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70243639.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-c52tj-97e49ec5abf0466e218806e9683a77c6 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Leonore Mau with husband and son), around 1950<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/p><\/div><div  class='hr av-l7eu6dd9-7dcb0a456baca7439848c3e6d6e61944 hr-default  avia-builder-el-40  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_one_full '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><\/p>\n<div  class='flex_column av-2towf-f216519158e255275f088450ba9554df av_one_full  avia-builder-el-41  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_hr  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-l7etxlxm-f90ef8445f8faa6a62a043d0a6bdbf00 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><h4><strong>F. C. Gundlach i<\/strong><strong>n Hamburg (8 April 2016)<\/strong><\/h4>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-4app3-df6b8c28ce98d6918378466c9190de36\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-4app3-df6b8c28ce98d6918378466c9190de36{\nheight:25px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-4app3-df6b8c28ce98d6918378466c9190de36 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-43  el_after_av_one_full  el_before_av_one_half '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-7knj3-df095941e165d2bb6184103e768a4139 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-44  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_one_half  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  id=\"f-c-gundlach\"  class='av_textblock_section av-l5s0lodl-4b936648cf0ed10f777b95d85bc90ee3 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>When I got to know Leonore she was a photographer.<\/p>\n<p>I had been running a postproduction agency for a while. We developed the films that they couldn\u2019t while they were on their travels. That\u2019s how we got talking. When she came to collect her pictures she showed them to me and we discussed them.<\/p>\n<p>In 1977 I founded a gallery. One of the first exhibitions we did was about African-American religions. Of course that was very unusual. Then I went to see her in D\u00fcrerstrasse. We looked through her photographs and selected material for the exhibition. I made the prints in my own lab and then gave them all to her as a gift. They were done on Cibachrome. We had one print of a Candombl\u00e9. It showed a <a href=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/en\/produkt\/ohne-titel-das-blutbad\/\">bleeding man<\/a> who was seated. It used to hang at the back of the gallery, as large as the wall. Fichte once held a reading there. Then we decided to do a portfolio. We published several portfolios, each one with ten motifs on a specific theme or related to a biography. We hit on the name <em>Grosse Anatomie<\/em> . In Bahia Leonore had photographed a human body being dissected, something that happens all the time there. In the pictures you can see a crowd of children next to the operating room watching what is going on. We produced twelve copies: she was given six, I got six. Fichte then also wrote a text about it.<\/p>\n<p>As far as I know, she mostly photographed with a 35mm camera, but also 6&#215;6. But I think her most important camera was her compact camera because it also enabled her to photograph in very difficult situations that required discretion and where one would rather be inconspicuous.<\/p>\n<p>This couple \u2013 the lanky, thin beanpole, one might say, but with a huge head, accompanied by a woman with white hair \u2013 had of course a presence about them, sensational. Naturally, he assumed the leading role. He was a world champion scrounger. They flew by Concorde \u2013 he fixed that. But maybe that was what was good about her role, that she remained passive and, as it were, voluntarily \u201cflew\u201d in his shadow. People were then busy with something else.<\/p>\n<p>She and Hubert Fichte were accepted as a couple. They weren\u2019t viewed as voyeurs but were taken seriously and incorporated into the ritual. When you photograph with a Leica you have the camera directly against your eye, so you get, as it were, the same perspective as your own eye. And it is the quietest camera there is. It\u2019s possible they didn\u2019t even notice that someone was also taking photographs. What is highly unusual is that while they were in San Salvador in Bahia they succeeded in going to a Macumba and all kinds of things. On all the many trips they made Leonore was always a very alert observer. The way she perceived each country they visited is reflected in her pictures. She perceived things as an observer, then photographed them. Under all kinds of conditions, because often there was very little light. But she still did her thing as a photographer. In South America there were no labs that developed slide films. They brought them back and we developed them in our own lab.<\/p>\n<p>She took a lot of portraits. She used the opportunity when Fichte was giving an interview. When conversation got going she was every ready and portrayed all kinds of people who were being interviewed. Like <a href=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/en\/produkt\/ohne-titel-jean-genet\/\">Genet<\/a>, for example. There\u2019s a whole series of shots. I think she only rarely used a flash. She made do with the light that was around the people. She didn\u2019t want to be noticed, that was the crucial thing. And the spontaneity she had while photographing.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/en\/ensemble\/\">Pina Bausch photos<\/a> were probably the last big task she set herself. They both knew each other well, which, given there were no barriers, allowed her to work freely. They also had a good personal rapport. She developed a very personal style for approaching people without somehow intimidating them. They kept their openness, stayed true to who they were. That is crucial. They didn\u2019t pose. They also trusted that they wouldn\u2019t be shown up. Because dancers are hard to photograph. Their art is about expressing themselves through the movements of their bodies. But this situation was completely the opposite. In a static situation she took large amounts of full-figure shots, she kept her distance. It seldom happened that someone would look directly into the camera. The photos she took were always very spontaneous.<\/p>\n<p>Leonore Mau came quite late to the camera and the camera was simply her instrument.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-6t1uv-1ec29be3a7f7f3ff411b78a4fbd5f591 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-46  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_hr  flex_column_div  '     ><p>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-2uaff-9fa912262060433d3a1cd9091e5432b8\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-2uaff-9fa912262060433d3a1cd9091e5432b8{\nheight:15px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-2uaff-9fa912262060433d3a1cd9091e5432b8 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-47  el_before_av_image  avia-builder-el-first '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s24ira-78e041499fc60f1a6d8ddbed63b065d7\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s24ira-78e041499fc60f1a6d8ddbed63b065d7 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s24ira-78e041499fc60f1a6d8ddbed63b065d7 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s24ira-78e041499fc60f1a6d8ddbed63b065d7 av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-48  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-3155 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-3155 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Blutbad-282x300.jpg\" alt='' title='Blutbad'  height=\"300\" width=\"282\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Blutbad-282x300.jpg 282w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Blutbad-scaled-300x319.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Blutbad-600x638.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Blutbad-969x1030.jpg 969w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Blutbad-768x816.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Blutbad-1445x1536.jpg 1445w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Blutbad-1927x2048.jpg 1927w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Blutbad-1411x1500.jpg 1411w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Blutbad-663x705.jpg 663w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 282px) 100vw, 282px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-l5s3ugri-d2cebd010f983c7978a9edd9314ecf4f '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (The bloodbath), 1971<br \/>\nColour slide 6&#215;6<br \/>\n\u00a9 Marlene Burmeister<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s3001b-858534919f3b3d7514d29b2061c2add1\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s3001b-858534919f3b3d7514d29b2061c2add1 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s3001b-858534919f3b3d7514d29b2061c2add1 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s3001b-858534919f3b3d7514d29b2061c2add1 av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-50  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-3159 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-3159 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70666721_LM-505418-300x230.jpg\" alt='' title='70666721_LM-505418'  height=\"230\" width=\"300\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70666721_LM-505418-300x230.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70666721_LM-505418-600x460.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70666721_LM-505418-768x588.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70666721_LM-505418-705x540.jpg 705w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70666721_LM-505418.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-6fveb-9b211e98a76b74987c00561dc9efcda1 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Candombl\u00e9 ceremony at night), 1969<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l81j9i7m-564bbe95d08b8569d0966d9bdb7ec48c\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l81j9i7m-564bbe95d08b8569d0966d9bdb7ec48c img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l81j9i7m-564bbe95d08b8569d0966d9bdb7ec48c .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l81j9i7m-564bbe95d08b8569d0966d9bdb7ec48c av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-52  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2501 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2501 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353691-236x300.jpg\" alt='' title='Ohne Titel (Jean Genet)'  height=\"300\" width=\"236\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353691-236x300.jpg 236w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353691-300x381.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353691-600x763.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353691-810x1030.jpg 810w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353691-768x976.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353691-555x705.jpg 555w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353691.jpg 944w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 236px) 100vw, 236px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-52w7b-8bf2bb30700d47c6592b5f1da9ee83e5 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Jean Genet), 1975<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s34dql-cae329d29ed73b76b211dd4663745d3d\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s34dql-cae329d29ed73b76b211dd4663745d3d img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s34dql-cae329d29ed73b76b211dd4663745d3d .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s34dql-cae329d29ed73b76b211dd4663745d3d av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-54  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-3156 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-3156 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-506160_Helene-Pikon-219x300.jpg\" alt='' title='LM-506160_Helene Pikon'  height=\"300\" width=\"219\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-506160_Helene-Pikon-219x300.jpg 219w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-506160_Helene-Pikon-300x410.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-506160_Helene-Pikon-516x705.jpg 516w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/LM-506160_Helene-Pikon.jpg 585w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 219px) 100vw, 219px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-lj2nbny7-7cf6fcf94aac5100b6108a1c417027ef '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Barmen. Br\u00fccke am Opernhaus, 1987<br \/>\n(with the French dancer Helena Pikon)<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/p><\/div><div  class='hr av-42fxn-6eb49c9df1193e9a1871db895fc84f5e hr-default  avia-builder-el-56  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_one_full '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><\/p>\n<div  class='flex_column av-1vfsr-1fadcea9a4c4ec9b577a6f1b896224a4 av_one_full  avia-builder-el-57  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_hr  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-l7etyog9-04ad8211288b7fb2d6e34cabea9c7861 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><h4><strong>Ulrike Ottinger at home<\/strong><strong> (9 May 2018)<\/strong><\/h4>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-3bb8j-6d16076a4ff0dfbe313cf7c404d11320\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-3bb8j-6d16076a4ff0dfbe313cf7c404d11320{\nheight:25px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-3bb8j-6d16076a4ff0dfbe313cf7c404d11320 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-59  el_after_av_one_full  el_before_av_one_half '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-4nno3-5d4ef89b5ac65dee06beb036c8d149fd av_one_half  avia-builder-el-60  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_one_half  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  id=\"ulrike-ottinger\"  class='av_textblock_section av-l5s0ncae-5bc9d912c079e6b92f4f3ed9a6b1cf64 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>It was during the time I was in Paris, for sure. I think I first became aware of her through her photographs and only then did I get to know her. Only once we really started talking intensely, that was then in Berlin and Hamburg. She had an exhibition here in Berlin. Somewhere around the Hackesche H\u00f6fe there was a lovely bookshop and that\u2019s where Leonore had an excellent exhibition. She had also been here on a previous occasion, probably at the Akademie der K\u00fcnste.<\/p>\n<p>When we spoke we talked about our various trips. I know that I once confessed to her that I sometimes find it really embarrassing to point my camera at people, but that with time I\u2019ve learned to stop trying to be discreet about it and to do it completely forthrightly. In other words, to smile at someone and nod to them, so to do it quite blatantly. So I asked her if she also had this issue. She said yes, it often takes quite an effort.<\/p>\n<p>She also has something I feel quite an affinity to, yes, a kind of \u201cway of approaching\u201d things I feel altogether familiar with. She told me that this is an experience you have \u2013 one, by the way, I also had \u2013 when you are a lot younger and much more brazen, but that this is compensated for later by the experience you gain in dealing with people. We discussed this sometimes, this situation and also one\u2019s inner conflict in needing to overcome yourself to do something, as a certain kind of timidity. And sometimes you wonder if that\u2019s being indiscreet, whether in a ritual or in everyday life.<\/p>\n<p>I remember she happened to be in an exhibition we were visiting together in this gallery \u2013 actually more of a bookshop \u2013 and was standing in front of her photos, and that she then started telling me a bit about the conditions and background situation, and other things that were going on there. We never actually talked about technical stuff and so on. At least I don\u2019t think we did, even though something like that might have been quickly mentioned, not <em>en passant<\/em>, but we were both not exactly, like people say, \u201ctekkies\u201d, just simply more interested in content and how you photograph something to make it recognisable.<\/p>\n<p>There is one photo she took of Hubert Fichte that I think is fantastic. It\u2019s the one where he has this body mask with a woman\u2019s breasts, and if I properly remember [\u2026] he is sitting like one of those mighty Congolese kings and is also, I think, holding a head mask on his knee, on which he has placed his hand. For me this is a brilliant portrait of Fichte because it manifests all the ambivalences about him and is simply a brilliant picture in its overall composition, right?<\/p>\n<p>I think they [Leonore Mau and Hubert Fichte] gave each other a kind of stability and security that you need if you choose to live differently, not so couched in regular routines, in a bourgeois, settled order. She possessed an openness, derived maybe from her upper-class attitude, and she was also able to disregard certain things. [\u2026]<\/p>\n<p>For her, aesthetics were a matter of course and I think she was very sure of herself when it came to choosing the exact framing she wanted at a certain moment. This is very clear to see: I\u2019m familiar with a lot of her photos taken in very different situations, things where you have to work very quickly, such as during the rituals. Documentary stuff, where you really have to make split-second decisions. Just like in the composed shots or in that portrait of Hubert Fichte.<\/p>\n<p>Her photography really gets close to things, yet at the same time she caught the essence of things as well as maintaining a precise observation of everyday life. But what I particularly meant is the playful dimension, even in the interaction of both aspects. I consider this absolutely crucial.<\/p>\n<p>In my view, her photos are some of the best I know when it comes to rituals, and that is only something you can do if you have an understanding of them, if you are familiar with them. If you aren\u2019t, you can\u2019t photograph them. Indeed, that is evident in her photographs, and of course that was also present in her exchange with Fichte and with people in general. If you spend a lot of time in another country, after a while you start belonging to the place a bit. I think you will always remain \u201cthe other\u201d, but nonetheless you have then become anchored as \u201cthe other\u201d in that culture and have found a role to play, and for people there you also sort of belong to the place.<\/p>\n<p>And for her, that was a matter of course, so then it seems natural and not so laboured and contrived \u2013 just kind of right. It is simply \u201cright\u201d. Yes, she had courage.<\/p>\n<p>There are things that are full of contradictions. And she and Fichte dared to expose themselves to these. The things they published, whether in photography or text, had a huge impact at the time, back in the sixties and seventies, without question.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-44jeb-0b92653723d8eb844a161c15dd3e660f av_one_half  avia-builder-el-62  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_hr  flex_column_div  '     ><p>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-1ydl3-d04c63dc2b32ac256b613e16601a51d6\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-1ydl3-d04c63dc2b32ac256b613e16601a51d6{\nheight:15px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-1ydl3-d04c63dc2b32ac256b613e16601a51d6 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-63  el_before_av_image  avia-builder-el-first '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s361hu-6ee7b8272d4e3772cc20019f4241cb4e\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s361hu-6ee7b8272d4e3772cc20019f4241cb4e img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s361hu-6ee7b8272d4e3772cc20019f4241cb4e .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s361hu-6ee7b8272d4e3772cc20019f4241cb4e av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-64  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image- avia-img-lazy-loading-not- avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247757-300x196.jpg\" alt='' title=''   itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-2j8wb-87e36ec63d24a945895c9aef7dadecf4 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Creditor in a trance), 1972-1978<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s35fy6-165b309c8a872b30468630326e6a9b94\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s35fy6-165b309c8a872b30468630326e6a9b94 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s35fy6-165b309c8a872b30468630326e6a9b94 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s35fy6-165b309c8a872b30468630326e6a9b94 av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-66  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2484 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2484 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-235x300.jpg\" alt='' title='Ohne Titel (Hubert Fichte mit Gelede-Bauchmaske und Tonkopf-Maske)'  height=\"300\" width=\"235\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-235x300.jpg 235w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-300x383.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-600x766.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-807x1030.jpg 807w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-768x980.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656-552x705.jpg 552w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70353656.jpg 940w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 235px) 100vw, 235px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-3ed6v-59f534e7a7d158b7dae4fafa2f0de646 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Hubert Fichte with belly mask and<br \/>\nclay head mask of the Gelede), 1979-1983<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l7hfxqxn-49be38302110e2f6241eb8ad5db10382\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l7hfxqxn-49be38302110e2f6241eb8ad5db10382 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l7hfxqxn-49be38302110e2f6241eb8ad5db10382 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l7hfxqxn-49be38302110e2f6241eb8ad5db10382 av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-68  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2637 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2637 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70665972-300x220.jpg\" alt='' title='Priesterinnen des Tempels &quot;Casa das Minas&quot;'  height=\"220\" width=\"300\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70665972-300x220.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70665972-400x293.jpg 400w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70665972-1030x754.jpg 1030w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70665972-768x562.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70665972-705x516.jpg 705w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70665972-600x439.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70665972.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-l7hfzwkz-479a5555bb5d81f73dcf1bf8dfb20266 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Priestesses of the temple <em>Casa das Minas<\/em>), 1981\/82<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l5s37t39-28093412de64e1aa29e0d9d5bf34fb8e\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s37t39-28093412de64e1aa29e0d9d5bf34fb8e img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l5s37t39-28093412de64e1aa29e0d9d5bf34fb8e .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l5s37t39-28093412de64e1aa29e0d9d5bf34fb8e av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-70  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2592 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2592 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70367520-300x297.jpg\" alt='' title='Ohne Titel (Erster Ausgang der Novizen)'  height=\"297\" width=\"300\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70367520-300x297.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70367520-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70367520-600x594.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70367520-1030x1019.jpg 1030w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70367520-80x80.jpg 80w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70367520-768x760.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70367520-36x36.jpg 36w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70367520-705x697.jpg 705w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70367520.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-l77lpl3c-4051a56c9d3fa1bb3f37d4f54f83e2c8 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (First exit of the novices), 1971<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/p><\/div>\n<div  class='hr av-2gpjf-7917f4043fbe7d3189179af44568a161 hr-default  avia-builder-el-72  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_one_full '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-pukr-28e2114dbf4e4c0de6fadc4872c5bc71 av_one_full  avia-builder-el-73  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_hr  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-l7eu0xql-4ae7ac979fef259b83a5af1287374542 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><h4><strong>Yoko Tawada at home on Berlin (22 March 2016)<\/strong><\/h4>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-wxa7-a0c171660f205e47676fb9bc4ff4054f\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-wxa7-a0c171660f205e47676fb9bc4ff4054f{\nheight:25px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-wxa7-a0c171660f205e47676fb9bc4ff4054f hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-75  el_after_av_one_full  el_before_av_one_half '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-av_one_half-a93934ecd89fbb8a9566d39e89cd3725 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-76  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_one_half  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  id=\"yoko-tawada\"  class='av_textblock_section av-lfjjs3nk-011137640acd47459b7eb7c76fdcba7f '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>I don\u2019t know how it [our first encounter] came about. My recollection is not necessarily right. My publisher Claudia Gehrke and I visited Leonore Mau two or three times, independently of this assignment. I remember that I was quite unaware that I was supposed to be being photographed. I was happy to be visiting her, but was then suddenly informed she\u2019d be taking pictures of me. But there was much less commotion involved than with other photographers. With Leonore it wasn\u2019t like that at all. It was very calm. I recall the room being rather dark, without the lighting you\u2019d normally get in a photo studio, and Leonore Mau asked me where I\u2019d like to put myself, at the window perhaps? I went over and stood there, after which there were no more instructions: I just stood there and didn\u2019t even have the feeling I was being photographed because Leonore Mau was completely quiet. She moved as if performing Noh theatre, where actors just slip across the floor. She must have moved somehow, she changed her position after all, but I didn\u2019t notice. That\u2019s why I was so astonished when I later saw the photos she\u2019d taken. She was certainly not dogmatic. She never told me to push my hair to the back or anywhere else, that also happened by chance. [\u2026] It seemed a short time to me. Maybe because it was pleasant. Time is a subjective thing. I don\u2018t know how long it lasted, hard to say, but it was certainly not long. [\u2026] As if she was just trying out taking some photos by the by, that\u2019s how it felt. And I didn\u2019t even notice that they were supposed to be portraits, which turned out to be really lovely. But, as I see it, it\u2019s not a typical portrait of a writer, more like a painting.<\/p>\n<p>I remember that she really enjoyed having visitors, even people like me who she barely knew. My publisher knew her much better. The way she welcomed us, calmly but very warmly, no big hugs and cheek-kissing or grand words. And then she took pleasure in putting wine on the table, everything was so quiet and natural. Leonore Mau was almost a kind of place where you could meet without ulterior purpose, without compulsion, without complications.<\/p>\n<p>Much later I was doing a theatre project with Ulrike Ottinger. She was showing her films in Hamburg and all her Hamburg friends were there, including Leonore Mau too. By then she was already a little unsteady on her feet. I didn\u2019t know that the two of them were friends, and then I thought, well, obviously, they have so much in common in their work, their interest in rituals and shamanism and photographs. A certain way of being very careful in how they deal with people, patiently studying rituals for quite long periods before taking photos. Rather than saying, now do this or that, or adopt this pose, and then photographing the result. But simply sticking with it for as long as it takes before everyone forgets she\u2019s there \u2013 and then to start photographing.<\/p>\n<div id=\"&#8221;links2&#8243;-link-5235\" class=\"sh-link &#8221;links2&#8243;-link sh-hide\"><a href=\"#\" onclick=\"showhide_toggle('&#8221;links2&#8243;', 5235, '&#8221;&gt;&gt;&gt;Read', '&#8221;&gt;&gt;&gt;Show'); return false;\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><span id=\"&#8221;links2&#8243;-toggle-5235\">&#8221;&gt;&gt;&gt;Read<\/span><\/a><\/div><div id=\"&#8221;links2&#8243;-content-5235\" class=\"sh-content &#8221;links2&#8243;-content sh-hide\" style=\"display: none;\"><\/p>\n<p>Normally, I feel quite uncomfortable being photographed, but in this instance I didn\u2019t. Uncomfortable, because I write \u2013 I\u2019m an author \u2013 and when I write, seen from the outside I\u2019m not there. For me the idea of being visible feels uncomfortable, the idea that my face has a certain appearance that someone else can see. And I myself can\u2019t see this appearance anyway and it has nothing to do with me. My language is what I am, whatever is going on in my head and comes out as letters. My face, my body, are important to me as an individual, but I feel them from the inside and never from the outside. And the fact that it is suddenly being depicted from the outside feels quite uncomfortable to me. Except with Leonore Mau, this was not the case.<\/p>\n<p>Leonore Mau enjoyed learning new languages. She told me she had fun with Hubert Fichte. \u201cLet\u2019s learn Arabic.\u201d Really fast and spontaneously, they\u2019d start learning, without qualms or hesitation, they\u2019d simply learn the language. So in that respect she was also interested in language, even if she didn\u2019t write. But her language was probably in her photography.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s really interesting because people in photographs don\u2019t speak, nor do the photographers, but there\u2019s language there nonetheless. Before taking photographs she would first talk to the people. She spoke to me as well. She didn\u2019t interrogate me but talked more of her own accord, which was very interesting and quite brief, and not at all intrusive. In response I then told her stuff too. There was a conversation and that is a part of her photography. If not, she wouldn\u2019t be able to take such photos.<\/p>\n<p>Photography can also be a ritual, at least in the manner Leonore Mau took photographs. I would say there was something ritualistic about it. This is where she draws her calm.<\/p>\n<p>I remember one photo showing a child playing with a blister pack of tablets. He was wearing it over his eyes like a mask. I saw the picture just once but I\u2019ve never forgotten it. It is so inventive and interesting, but there\u2019s also something brutal in it. It\u2019s such a violent world, but then the child is playing with it, and I found that so powerful.<\/p>\n<p><\/div>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-av_one_half-d06667205e6186ec8414c6eb7605d406 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-78  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_hr  flex_column_div  '     ><p>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-av_hr-35d53d7be2491954ac97ecc375137ffb\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-av_hr-35d53d7be2491954ac97ecc375137ffb{\nheight:15px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-av_hr-35d53d7be2491954ac97ecc375137ffb hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-79  el_before_av_image  avia-builder-el-first '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-lfjju6bi-742c47ea8bc4cfdf72a224f13c8789ab\">\n.avia-image-container.av-lfjju6bi-742c47ea8bc4cfdf72a224f13c8789ab img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-lfjju6bi-742c47ea8bc4cfdf72a224f13c8789ab .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-lfjju6bi-742c47ea8bc4cfdf72a224f13c8789ab av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-80  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2509 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2509 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-206x300.jpg\" alt='' title='Ohne Titel (Y?ko Tawada)'  height=\"300\" width=\"206\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-206x300.jpg 206w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-300x438.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-600x876.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-706x1030.jpg 706w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-768x1121.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763-483x705.jpg 483w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70354763.jpg 822w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 206px) 100vw, 206px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-lfjjupct-7d0b1b6a36f414e5f02a5839d401e79e '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Y\u014dko Tawada)<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-lfjjvs51-e8df4f5142751586e1a960fbf8f8bf59\">\n.avia-image-container.av-lfjjvs51-e8df4f5142751586e1a960fbf8f8bf59 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-lfjjvs51-e8df4f5142751586e1a960fbf8f8bf59 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-lfjjvs51-e8df4f5142751586e1a960fbf8f8bf59 av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-82  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2601 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2601 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70368884-209x300.jpg\" alt='' title='Ohne Titel (Afrikanischer Junge mit Blister-Maske)'  height=\"300\" width=\"209\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70368884-209x300.jpg 209w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70368884-300x431.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70368884-600x862.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70368884-717x1030.jpg 717w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70368884-768x1104.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70368884-491x705.jpg 491w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70368884.jpg 835w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 209px) 100vw, 209px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-lfjjxclr-040c7ad323e9b35750a39f9b0f4ecb4c '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Boy with blister mask), 1975<br \/>\n\u00a9 bpk \/ S. Fischer Stiftung \/ Leonore Mau<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><\/p><\/div>\n<div  class='hr av-av_hr-25a4ee3efc7b8bc62b7aa85dda01ec17 hr-default  avia-builder-el-84  el_after_av_one_half  el_before_av_one_full '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-av_one_full-a93934ecd89fbb8a9566d39e89cd3725 av_one_full  avia-builder-el-85  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_hr  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-lfjjhpis-9c88ccd539dcc04a6643d5b0681dc041 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><h4><strong>Wolfgang von Wangenheim in Hamburg in the <\/strong><strong>Hotel Atlantic<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 (4 February 2016)<\/strong><\/h4>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-av_hr-50edc9949d927eab467680f201044eec\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-av_hr-50edc9949d927eab467680f201044eec{\nheight:25px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-av_hr-50edc9949d927eab467680f201044eec hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-87  el_after_av_one_full  el_before_av_one_half '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-b4a4n-e015fcd163f1e104822f1fc0dee48d6f av_one_half  avia-builder-el-88  el_after_av_hr  el_before_av_one_half  first flex_column_div  '     ><section  id=\"wolfgang-von-wangenheim\"  class='av_textblock_section av-l5s0kz9z-fc89b43b46b65ef60eb77ff25636ace0 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>I became acquainted with Leonore Mau early in 1976. It was my last year in Dakar where I had been working as an editor for German and trained French German teachers at the university. I had got to know Hubert Fichte two years earlier when he came with Leonore Mau to Dakar to do research and describe the conditions in the psychiatric clinic in Fann, which was directly adjacent to the university on the Dakar peninsular. It transpired that in 1976 I was able to let Hubert and Leonore use one of the two flats I had in Dakar, the one I rented from the university. That\u2019s where I got to know them both. And after period they spent there \u2013 it must have been two or three months \u2013 all of us, Hubert, Leonore, Amadou, my Senegalese partner) and I, then drove to Casamance in order to visit a \u201cpsychiatric village\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Hubert had been in touch with the French director, a psychiatrist by profession, and asked how the Senegalese traditionally healed or treated mental illnesses and psychiatric disorders, and how he sought to integrate this approach into a method that combined traditional and modern methods of treatment both in Dakar and in that village in the south of the country.<\/p>\n<p>We drove down to the south of Senegal, to the region known as the Casamance. There, not far from the capital Ziguinchor, an already existing village had been furnished with a health care service. In the village were many mentally disturbed and socially conspicuous people, people who were lightly shackled with a tree stump tied to their legs \u2013 which Leonore then photographed and Hubert described. It was in this village we visited that I also photographed Leonore while she was taking photographs. As it happened, the two of them had been to the place once before, so people were already familiar with them. That, in fact, was their method: Leonore never photographed strangers anywhere, so when she began to photograph someone it was always someone who knew that it was her, not on the first day, but on the second or third, at some point or another, quite casually. That is how she was able to take so many spontaneous shots that reveal moments of such intimate enthusiasm, especially in situations to do with healing or baptism in the river or such like. Intimate gestures made by sick patients or healthy people, Leonore Mau patiently captured these moments just as they happened. And the people making them didn\u2019t notice or it didn\u2019t bother them that a woman was also there taking a few photos.<\/p>\n<div id=\"&#8221;links2&#8243;-link-5235\" class=\"sh-link &#8221;links2&#8243;-link sh-hide\"><a href=\"#\" onclick=\"showhide_toggle('&#8221;links2&#8243;', 5235, '&#8221;&gt;&gt;&gt;Read', '&#8221;&gt;&gt;&gt;Show'); return false;\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><span id=\"&#8221;links2&#8243;-toggle-5235\">&#8221;&gt;&gt;&gt;Read<\/span><\/a><\/div><div id=\"&#8221;links2&#8243;-content-5235\" class=\"sh-content &#8221;links2&#8243;-content sh-hide\" style=\"display: none;\"><\/p>\n<p>She wasn\u2019t a tourist or a reporter. She was in fact truly integrated, spoke French of course, which people there didn\u2019t. But lots of things also happened on a metalinguistic level because the sick people didn\u2019t respond to words, only to gestures, affection and treatment. We spent a week or two down there. Hubert spoke to people, occasionally also recording with a microphone, taking notes, and Leonore simply [photographed] what was going on. And with complete calm, she was utterly relaxed like someone on holiday, casually taking a photo now and then. And this, I suspect, was very agreeable for the people being photographed because either they didn\u2019t ever notice her or ultimately it didn\u2019t strike them as [unpleasant] \u2013 not like some intrusion by a stranger. Actually, Leonore was not at all keen on theory. She preferred just to describe her encounters. Because, of course, she\u2019d had plenty of touching conversations with the shopkeeper in the little town, in the hotel\u2026 She observed everything and had a deep social awareness. Her actions were warm-hearted, but at the same time she possessed what Hubert Fichte esteemed so highly in her, the cosmopolitan urbanity of the upper classes.<\/p>\n<p><\/div>\n<\/div><\/section><\/div>\n<div  class='flex_column av-agoij-b0e2f63030af408959b6b59921ac5dc9 av_one_half  avia-builder-el-90  el_after_av_one_half  avia-builder-el-last  flex_column_div  '     ><p>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-w0ev-bedfb800fae5e37242230a764443e462\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-w0ev-bedfb800fae5e37242230a764443e462{\nheight:15px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-w0ev-bedfb800fae5e37242230a764443e462 hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-91  el_before_av_image  avia-builder-el-first '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" 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srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-300x223.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-600x446.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-1030x766.jpg 1030w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-768x571.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720-705x524.jpg 705w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70247720.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-l77nqwz3-a7be4d3ca8c17dff2fe1f920fef84f58 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Leonore Mau in the psychiatric village<br \/>\n\u201eVillage \u00c9mile Badiane\u201c of Kenya near Ziguinchor,<br \/>\nin the Casamance, Senegal), 1976<br \/>\n\u00a9 Wolfgang von Wangenheim<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-l77nmhl1-d1e935b5d859d66e35a6ca3672d44015\">\n.avia-image-container.av-l77nmhl1-d1e935b5d859d66e35a6ca3672d44015 img.avia_image{\nbox-shadow:none;\n}\n.avia-image-container.av-l77nmhl1-d1e935b5d859d66e35a6ca3672d44015 .av-image-caption-overlay-center{\ncolor:#ffffff;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='avia-image-container av-l77nmhl1-d1e935b5d859d66e35a6ca3672d44015 av-styling- avia-align-left  avia-builder-el-94  el_after_av_textblock  el_before_av_textblock '   itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><div class=\"avia-image-container-inner\"><div class=\"avia-image-overlay-wrap\"><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class='wp-image-2552 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-2552 avia_image ' src=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70365747-221x300.jpg\" alt='' title='Hubert Fichte im psychiatrischen Dorf Kenia'  height=\"300\" width=\"221\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\" srcset=\"https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70365747-221x300.jpg 221w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70365747-300x408.jpg 300w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70365747-600x816.jpg 600w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70365747-757x1030.jpg 757w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70365747-768x1045.jpg 768w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70365747-518x705.jpg 518w, https:\/\/leonore-mau.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/70365747.jpg 882w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 221px) 100vw, 221px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div><br \/>\n<section  class='av_textblock_section av-9rbmn-0fdeaac7d05382103e016df2c27c18f8 '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock img-caption-indi'  itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Untitled (Hubert Fichte 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